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New country: The Economics of National Security (report from the discussion panel)

What representatives of the real sector say about the economy.

Speakers of the discussion (from left to right): Ihor Liski, Oleksandr Yakovenko, Artem Borodatyuk and Taras Kachka
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Speakers of the discussion (from left to right): Ihor Liski, Oleksandr Yakovenko, Artem Borodatyuk and Taras Kachka

What is and should be the national security economy? This was the question answered by the speakers and guests of the New Country discussion panel, a joint project of LB.ua and EFI Group, which took place on 18 March. 

What industries ensure economic development in times of war? Which sectors will be the driving force behind the country's recovery after the war is over? How does a strong economy contribute to the formation of a long-term security foundation? These and other equally important issues (including tax administration/increase/decrease, changes in tax models) were discussed by top speakers from the real economy, well-known businessmen in the country, and a representative of the Ministry of Economy. In particular:

Oleksandr Yakovenko
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Oleksandr Yakovenko

  • Oleksandr Yakovenko, TAF Drones (the company is one of the largest manufacturers of FPV drones, reconnaissance drones and electronic warfare systems)

The founder of TAF Drones spoke about the development of the drone industry and once again stressed the need to export technologies and products in the field of Miltech.

‘Currently, manufacturers are underutilised by 100%. The average capacity utilisation varies from company to company, but it is no more than half of the capacity. At the same time, the government prohibits exporting products abroad. We understand why this is happening. It makes political sense, because it would be strange if we, a country at war, exported products. But it has a negative impact on the economy and the development of the industry. Because when the war or the active phase is over, the further development of the industry will be questionable,’ says Oleksandr Yakovenko.

Artem Borodatyuk
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Artem Borodatyuk

  • Artem Borodatyuk, founder of Netpeak Group

The founder of Netpeak Group (includes Netpeak, Inweb, Octopus Events, Serpstat agencies) also noted how the war affects the development of the IT sector.

‘Ukrainian IT needs to be divided. There is outsourcing and product companies. And only product companies are developing now. Outsourcing does not enter into contracts, it does not want to take risks. And there are three risks: blackouts, missiles, and conditional mobilisation. There are companies where, if one person is mobilised, the business basically ends. This is the specificity of IT,' Borodatyuk says, adding that at least 150 outsourcing companies closed last year. The businessman shared his vision of how to fix this and what to do to develop the industry and the economy as a whole during his speech at the discussion panel.

Ihor Liski
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Ihor Liski

  • Ihor Liski, Chairman of the Supervisory Board of EFI Group Investment Company

According to Ihor Liski, Ukraine needs a new industrialisation and industrial revival. 

‘We need a powerful energy sector, an engineering base that will allow us to revive the industry. We need a new industrialisation of the country. We have to become an industrial base for Europe. Then we can claim a different future. This is the main story - energy, industrialisation, agriculture (we need to complete the process with added value). We need to reach at least the level of Poland in agriculture. I'm not talking about the Netherlands or Italy, where they achieve tenfold exports of value-added products with a much smaller land base,’ the businessman says.

Taras Kachka
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Taras Kachka

  • Taras Kachka, Deputy Minister of Economy, Trade and Agriculture

As a representative of the government, Taras Kachka has taken on all the complaints and comments about the principles of doing business in the country, sometimes acknowledging gaps, sometimes calling for changes.

‘The fact that no one is completely satisfied is also a normal story, because it means that we have a democratic society. From this perspective, we need to understand that any model (of taxation) can be defended, but the question is where we are heading.

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And in my understanding, all of us - it's not a matter of the government, but all of us, as a society, as a business, are moving in the right direction. Because even during the war, we survived, the business itself survived, and the state was not superfluous, but rather helpful in this case. We did not use total administrative regulation of the economy, but rather resorted to coordination and mutual dialogue, even in times of war,’ said the representative of the Ministry of Economy. 

The conversation was multifaceted and quite lively. It was joined by guests, including experts, entrepreneurs, MPs and representatives of the public sector. The main points of the discussion, as well as the full speeches of the top speakers, will be published soon on LB.ua.

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Oleksandr Yakovenko
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Oleksandr Yakovenko

Artem Borodatyuk
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Artem Borodatyuk

Ihor Liski
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Ihor Liski

Taras Kachka
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Taras Kachka

LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina
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LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina

Political Adviser to the Ambassador of the Republic of Estonia to Ukraine Tarmo Saalik
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Political Adviser to the Ambassador of the Republic of Estonia to Ukraine Tarmo Saalik

Rector of the SBU Academy Andriy Chernyak
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Rector of the SBU Academy Andriy Chernyak

LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina
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LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina

Kateryna Zahoriy, representative of Darnytsya Pharmaceutical Company
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Kateryna Zahoriy, representative of Darnytsya Pharmaceutical Company

Advisor to the Minister of Culture Dmytro Zolotukhin
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Advisor to the Minister of Culture Dmytro Zolotukhin

producer Max Suhenko
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producer Max Suhenko

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From right: Kateryna Zahoriy, representative of Darnitsa Pharmaceutical Company, and Hennadiy Zubko, former Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Regional Development, Construction, Housing and Communal Services
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From right: Kateryna Zahoriy, representative of Darnitsa Pharmaceutical Company, and Hennadiy Zubko, former Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Regional Development, Construction, Housing and Communal Services

Executive Director of the Centre for Economic Strategy Hlib Vyshlinskyy
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Executive Director of the Centre for Economic Strategy Hlib Vyshlinskyy

Mykhaylo Radutskyy Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Health, Medical Care and Medical Insurance
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Mykhaylo Radutskyy Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Health, Medical Care and Medical Insurance

Nina Yuzhanyna, Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Taxation and Customs Policy
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Nina Yuzhanyna, Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Taxation and Customs Policy

Ihor Shvayka, former Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine, serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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Ihor Shvayka, former Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine, serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Kseniya Orynchak, Founder and Head of the National Association of Extractive Industries of Ukraine
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Kseniya Orynchak, Founder and Head of the National Association of Extractive Industries of Ukraine

Nina Yuzhanyna, Head of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Taxation and Customs Policy, and Hennadiy Chyzhykov, President of the Ukrainian Chamber of Commerce and Industry
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Nina Yuzhanyna, Head of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Taxation and Customs Policy, and Hennadiy Chyzhykov, President of the Ukrainian Chamber of Commerce and Industry

Business Ombudsman Roman Vashchuk
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Business Ombudsman Roman Vashchuk

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Halyna Yanchenko, MP from the Servant of the People party
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Halyna Yanchenko, MP from the Servant of the People party

Taras Kozak, President of Univer Investment Group
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Taras Kozak, President of Univer Investment Group

Yuriy Frydman, Managing Partner and CEO of the International Business School IBS
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Yuriy Frydman, Managing Partner and CEO of the International Business School IBS

Serhiy Ustenko, owner of Carpathian Mineral Waters
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Serhiy Ustenko, owner of Carpathian Mineral Waters

Executive Director of Diia.City United Nataliya Mykolska
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Executive Director of Diia.City United Nataliya Mykolska
Kostyantyn Kharakoz, Judge of the Economic Court of Donetsk Region, Member of the Board of the Association for the Development of Judicial Self-Government of Ukraine
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Kostyantyn Kharakoz, Judge of the Economic Court of Donetsk Region, Member of the Board of the Association for the Development of Judicial Self-Government of Ukraine

literary scholar and literary critic Orysya Demska
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literary scholar and literary critic Orysya Demska

LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina
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LB.ua editor-in-chief Sonya Koshkina

Mykhaylo Radutskyy, Hennadiy Zubko and Nina Yuzhanyna
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Mykhaylo Radutskyy, Hennadiy Zubko and Nina Yuzhanyna

Andriy Chernyak, Rector of the SBU Academy, Orysya Demska, literary scholar and literary critic, Larysa Latypova, Deputy Director General of SOCAR Energy Ukraine
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Andriy Chernyak, Rector of the SBU Academy, Orysya Demska, literary scholar and literary critic, Larysa Latypova, Deputy Director General of SOCAR Energy Ukraine

Hlib Vyshlinskyy, Executive Director of the Centre for Economic Strategy, and Maksym Nefyodov, Kyiv City Council member from the Voice party, and Diia.City United Executive Director. Natalia Mykolska (back)
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Hlib Vyshlinskyy, Executive Director of the Centre for Economic Strategy, and Maksym Nefyodov, Kyiv City Council member from the Voice party, and Diia.City United Executive Director. Natalia Mykolska (back)

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